Comments on: The Death of ClickBank http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/ Making Money through Ethical Internet Marketing. Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:39:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bob http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-13630 Bob Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:49:55 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-13630 I think I can sum it up simply, for affiliates, cb has scam written all over it- it's really bad. Because of the hoplink thing, I don't know about pdc but I can pretty much say that affiliate marketing on the internet just doesn't exist at all. Because the hoplinks never ever work at all, they never give you credit for the sale, never ever happens. I know this for sure, it's simple to find out, get a hoplink and click on it, the first time you go there it says that you are the affiliate, but not after you leave the site anytime you come back, it just says affiliate:none it's that simple (I've noticed it will denote you as the affiliate for about three hours after the initial linkthrough or whenever you log off line and then your history). Hoplinks do not give you credit for the sale period, the large majority of computers out there have cookies set just like mine and the computer just simply doesn't remember the hoplink, when the costumer goes back to that site it gives all the sale to the webmaster. The costumer doesn't have to deliberatly clear the cookies, everyones' computer erases stuff like the hoplink automatically every few hours. Affiliate marketing online simply doesn't exist for affiliates, there is no such thing, hoplinks will not give you credit for the sale, period. Peace. And as for the refund thing, that's like going to a grocery store and asking for a refund of pudding you already ate. I don't think people should own the download and not need to pay for it. I think I can sum it up simply, for affiliates, cb has scam written all over it- it’s really bad. Because of the hoplink thing, I don’t know about pdc but I can pretty much say that affiliate marketing on the internet just doesn’t exist at all. Because the hoplinks never ever work at all, they never give you credit for the sale, never ever happens. I know this for sure, it’s simple to find out, get a hoplink and click on it, the first time you go there it says that you are the affiliate, but not after you leave the site anytime you come back, it just says affiliate:none it’s that simple (I’ve noticed it will denote you as the affiliate for about three hours after the initial linkthrough or whenever you log off line and then your history). Hoplinks do not give you credit for the sale period, the large majority of computers out there have cookies set just like mine and the computer just simply doesn’t remember the hoplink, when the costumer goes back to that site it gives all the sale to the webmaster. The costumer doesn’t have to deliberatly clear the cookies, everyones’ computer erases stuff like the hoplink automatically every few hours. Affiliate marketing online simply doesn’t exist for affiliates, there is no such thing, hoplinks will not give you credit for the sale, period. Peace. And as for the refund thing, that’s like going to a grocery store and asking for a refund of pudding you already ate. I don’t think people should own the download and not need to pay for it.

]]> By: Josh Spaulding http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-12172 Josh Spaulding Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:09:01 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-12172 @ Rob - Not to defend them, because they certainly have their flaws, but the reason they do this is to prevent people who haven't make any sales at all (just generated money by ordering products through their own link) from being paid, which is a good thing. But it is pretty ridiculous. @ Rob – Not to defend them, because they certainly have their flaws, but the reason they do this is to prevent people who haven’t make any sales at all (just generated money by ordering products through their own link) from being paid, which is a good thing. But it is pretty ridiculous.

]]> By: Rob http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-12171 Rob Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:01:22 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-12171 I just laugh at their terms of payments to affiliates. Have you read the requirements before they'll pay you? It is quite hilarious, almost to the point of saying "We will only pay you if there is a "z" in the month". I have over $100 in my account (not that much I know) and I won't get that for ages because I need to make sales from about 5 different payment methods or something before they'll issue a cheque. Why can't they just pay via Paypal? The answer is simple. They don't want to pay you. I think CB is a dinosaur and we all know what happened to the dinosaurs. I just laugh at their terms of payments to affiliates.

Have you read the requirements before they’ll pay you? It is quite hilarious, almost to the point of saying “We will only pay you if there is a “z” in the month”.

I have over $100 in my account (not that much I know) and I won’t get that for ages because I need to make sales from about 5 different payment methods or something before they’ll issue a cheque.

Why can’t they just pay via Paypal?

The answer is simple. They don’t want to pay you. I think CB is a dinosaur and we all know what happened to the dinosaurs.

]]> By: Ivan Walsh http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-12158 Ivan Walsh Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:48:58 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-12158 2 ways to reduce the refund process: 1. tell clickbank NOT to advertise your product to the country where the refunds are coming from. 90% of all my refunds come from a certain country in Asia. Starts with I. 2. with Google Adwords, make sure youre Google ad campaigns don’t include these countries. Focus your Google Adword campaigns on wealthy countries where the likelihood of refund requests will be lower. I have tried this and it works. Ivan 2 ways to reduce the refund process:

1. tell clickbank NOT to advertise your product to the country where the refunds are coming from.

90% of all my refunds come from a certain country in Asia. Starts with I.

2. with Google Adwords, make sure youre Google ad campaigns don’t include these countries.

Focus your Google Adword campaigns on wealthy countries where the likelihood of refund requests will be lower.

I have tried this and it works.

Ivan

]]> By: Jonathan@Friends&Money http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9945 Jonathan@Friends&Money Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:17:53 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9945 Got to be honest I've never been a big fan of clickbank and whilst I now that it can provide some excellent channels to buyers, I prefer to market my own products through PAYPAL on my site. Whilst this also has it's own draw backs, I just find it a more flexible tool and means that I remain in control of my products and my customers don't end up getting ripped off Got to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of clickbank and whilst I now that it can provide some excellent channels to buyers, I prefer to market my own products through PAYPAL on my site. Whilst this also has it’s own draw backs, I just find it a more flexible tool and means that I remain in control of my products and my customers don’t end up getting ripped off

]]> By: Matt http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9150 Matt Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:08:48 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9150 I think that both of these problems are tied more to the IM niche than any other niche clickbank products are associated with. Think about it, the average consumer will not know what a hop link is, and the average consumer will not be familiar with clickbank and its generous return policy. If you are promoting or selling a good quality products outside of the IM niche, it is highly unlikely that these two problems will hurt your efforts. I think that both of these problems are tied more to the IM niche than any other niche clickbank products are associated with.

Think about it, the average consumer will not know what a hop link is, and the average consumer will not be familiar with clickbank and its generous return policy.

If you are promoting or selling a good quality products outside of the IM niche, it is highly unlikely that these two problems will hurt your efforts.

]]> By: Josh Spaulding http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9119 Josh Spaulding Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:11:39 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9119 @ Registry - You have a very odd name, but I won't hold that against you ;) You may want to take a look at my comment policy though. One thing I failed to consider in this post was the fact that most of the products in ClickBank aren't related to Internet Marketers and since Internet Marketers are primarily the only ones who know how easy it is to get a refund through CB, it wouldn't be an issue. It's just an issue with IM products. @ Registry – You have a very odd name, but I won’t hold that against you ;) You may want to take a look at my comment policy though.

One thing I failed to consider in this post was the fact that most of the products in ClickBank aren’t related to Internet Marketers and since Internet Marketers are primarily the only ones who know how easy it is to get a refund through CB, it wouldn’t be an issue.

It’s just an issue with IM products.

]]> By: Registry Fix Review http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9118 Registry Fix Review Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:18:32 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-9118 Dan: <i>"The refund thing IS annoying but Clickbank will be the industry standard for a long time to come (in my opinion anyway). <b>A lot of people make A LOT of money with Clickbank...</b>"</i> For the very reason you state at the end of this comment, despite its flaws, CB doesn't seem to be going any place (as in "dying") anytime soon. I promote affiliate products on CB and so far, have not suffered much from the liberal refund policies at CB. To be honest, though, two thirds of the products I promote are not related to the I.M. niche. Will be interesting to see how it will go with a recent site I just set up, which <i>does</i> promote I.M. niche products. Their refund policy seems to be in the "damned if you do and damned if you don't" category. As others here have pointed out, especially in the I.M. category, those of us who purchase some of these products who have been around for a while are quite sensitive to the fact that not all product releases are worth having. Without that refund policy, we'd be losing more money, especially the little guy who's just trying to figure out what I.M. is all about in the first place. That said, I agree with the general premise that CB and its policies are flawed, but then what are you going to do! They've helped me begin to make some income from my efforts in I.M., and I'm sure many others as well. There's not many other affiliate programs out there where you can earn 50% to 75% commission on a sale. You just about need that high a percentage in order to make any kind of living these days. Dan: “The refund thing IS annoying but Clickbank will be the industry standard for a long time to come (in my opinion anyway). A lot of people make A LOT of money with Clickbank…“

For the very reason you state at the end of this comment, despite its flaws, CB doesn’t seem to be going any place (as in “dying”) anytime soon.

I promote affiliate products on CB and so far, have not suffered much from the liberal refund policies at CB. To be honest, though, two thirds of the products I promote are not related to the I.M. niche. Will be interesting to see how it will go with a recent site I just set up, which does promote I.M. niche products.

Their refund policy seems to be in the “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” category. As others here have pointed out, especially in the I.M. category, those of us who purchase some of these products who have been around for a while are quite sensitive to the fact that not all product releases are worth having. Without that refund policy, we’d be losing more money, especially the little guy who’s just trying to figure out what I.M. is all about in the first place.

That said, I agree with the general premise that CB and its policies are flawed, but then what are you going to do! They’ve helped me begin to make some income from my efforts in I.M., and I’m sure many others as well. There’s not many other affiliate programs out there where you can earn 50% to 75% commission on a sale. You just about need that high a percentage in order to make any kind of living these days.

]]> By: The Affiliate Conspiracy Review http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-5408 The Affiliate Conspiracy Review Thu, 08 May 2008 07:35:45 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-5408 The refund thing IS annoying but Clickbank will be the industry standard for a long time to come (in my opinion anyway). Alot of people make ALOT of money with Clickbank and the products there are much better than those at PDC. I've promoted products from both as an affiliate, and I've always done alot better with Clickbank. Dan The refund thing IS annoying but Clickbank will be the industry standard for a long time to come (in my opinion anyway). Alot of people make ALOT of money with Clickbank and the products there are much better than those at PDC. I’ve promoted products from both as an affiliate, and I’ve always done alot better with Clickbank.

Dan

]]> By: Josh Spaulding http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-5363 Josh Spaulding Mon, 05 May 2008 02:48:24 +0000 http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/the-death-of-clickbank/#comment-5363 @ Kris - I hear ya. Bad situation indeed. Hopefully they improve that in some way! @ Kris – I hear ya. Bad situation indeed. Hopefully they improve that in some way!

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